Saw them at The Fireside in Chicago. This band was so similar in content and emotional response to Scene Creamers that I believe the two, if ever they meet on the same stage, would be a phenomenal trip into the neither lands of transcendental soul fuck. Unlike Scene Creamers, there was not a lot in The Apes show that hinged as heavily on the theater of presentation to get across the point of the music, I admit The Apes holds up a little better on CD than SCs (there are definitely highlights in Scene Creamers that I think do hold really well, just less of a studio production than The Apes). But the one thing they both have in common is their inherent ability to capture the force of sound and pour it into every person in the audience, drawing them into spheres that have no use for lines or definition, truly intimate.